President Donald Trump discussed the use of cocaine during a recent appearance on a podcast with comedian Theo Von.

Trump talked about drug usage with Von and inquired Von about the specifics of cocaine. Trump is clean and sober and never touched a drug in his life but seemed curious about the illicit substance’s effect on the human body.

“I would just do cocaine,” Von told Trump.

“That’s down and dirty,” the president replied. “But you don’t anymore?”

“I don’t do it anymore, man,” Von said.

“Is it too much – too much to handle?” Trump asked.

“Some of the stuff started to get a real rattle in it… It started to make me feel like I was a mechanic or something,” Von said.

Trump continued to ask Von questions about cocaine. Von said that he stays off cocaine and instead chooses to do alcohol, although he prefers cocaine as an intoxicant.

“So you’re way up with cocaine, more than anything else you can think of?” Trump asked.

“Cocaine will turn you into a damn owl, homie. Ya know what I’m sayin?” Von responded.

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In the interview, Trump also sharply criticized the FDA and the way Big Pharma is able to lobby for their dangerous drugs to be pumped into the bodies of Americans without any real consequences.

“There are 18,000 Big Pharma lobbyists in Washington, DC, there’s only 535 total [members of Congress]… how do we stop that?,” Von asked.

“You have to stop listening to lobbyists. You know, I was not a big person for lobbyists. And if they have even a little access to like a president or a senator or a congressman or woman, they get a lot of money,” Trump said while responding to Theo Von.