Earlier this month, former FAA test pilot Brett Vance host of Jet Jockeys and retired chiropractor and airline captain Kevin Stillwagon discussed diversity, equity, and inclusion (“DEI”) in commercial aviation.

“I’m convinced that … in the aviation industry there’s a good chance that if you follow DEI principles exclusively, we could cause some fatalities,” Vance said.

Dr. Stillwagon agreed. “We’re already seeing some signs of this,” he said

The two-hour discussion between the two former American pilots covered a wide range of topics: DEI in the aviation industry, mandated covid measures, covid injections, the harm covid injections inflict and help for those who have been vaccine-injured.

In a recent Substack post, Dr. StillWagon highlighted the DEI policies being imposed in the aviation industry which are already causing safety issues in the industry.  In his post, Dr. Stillwagon included a clip from the discussion which you can watch HERE.  In the following, we note some highlights from throughout the two-hour discussion.

During the covid era, both Vance and Dr. Stillwagon received career-ending ultimatums. At timestamp 57:45, Dr. Stillwagon describes the lead-up to his resignation; he had no choice but to resign because he opposed the airline’s covid policies. 

The build-up to his resignation involved the ridiculous and harmful nature of non-pharmaceutical interventions imposed by governments and airlines in response to the so-called covid pandemic, such as face masks and social distancing.

Dr. Stillwagon told the airline he would refuse to make passengers and crew on his flights wear face masks. He told the airline: “I’m not going to do it [make people wear face masks], it’s all fake.  It’s dangerous.  Even I will not do it.”

The response to Dr. Stillwagon was: “Well, you can’t work here anymore.” So, Dr. Stillwagon immediately resigned.  As soon as he was no longer working for the airline, Dr. Stillwagon began speaking out against not only facemasks but also the so-called covid vaccines (see from timestamp 1:09:16).

Referring to airline vaccine mandates, Dr. Stillwagon said: “We plan to bring a lawsuit against the FAA [Federal Aviation Administration] to hold them accountable for what they’ve done, because pilots have died that should not have died.  I’ve got the data on this” (see from timestamp 1:21:17).

At timestamp 1:24:44, the two pilots began discussing DEI, focusing on equity in pilot training as it is the most concerning of the DEI tri-ideology. “We’re not talking about experience here.  We’re talking about the end of the pilot training programme where everybody gets the same outcome,” Vance said.

“I’m convinced that … in the aviation industry there’s a good chance that if you follow DEI principles exclusively, we could cause some fatalities,” he added.

Dr. Stillwagon agreed with Vance completely. “We’re already seeing some signs of this,” he said.

The recently appointed administrator of the FAA, Michael Whitaker, has admitted that “the FAA did drop the ball [regarding safety signals that are happening in the aviation industry], and they need to really pay close attention to what’s going on with aircraft manufacturing particularly,” Dr. Stillwagon explained.

“He talked specifically about the culture that’s involved. This definitely has to do with DEI. These companies are trying to check boxes and put people into moulds,” he said. He continued:

“That really can’t be done if you want to have a safe environment for the travelling public. This goes in all aspects of aviation. Not only the people who put these planes together but the people who do the final testing on these products, the people who inspect the products, the parts pipeline, where these parts are even coming from.  We know that recently there was an incident found where bogus parts even got installed in an aircraft.”

“DEI can work in some corporate environments but I don’t believe it fits well in aviation.  It just doesn’t fit,” Dr. Stillwagon said.

It is not only DEI policies that will affect aviation safety.  There are also the harms caused by covid injections.  Starting from timestamp 1:55:22 Dr. Stillwagon discussed the mechanisms of harm and the possible outcomes.

The lipid nanoparticles in the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna “vaccines” are known to be toxic, Dr. Stillwagon explained. Additionally, “all of this mRNA technology, all of it, is going to be making, I call them, bioactive proteins … proteins made by this synthetic messenger RNA [ ] are bioactive … It results in pathology. ”

“I think we’re just starting to see the fallout of [vaccine harms]. We’re seeing it in aviation, particularly in the increased level of pilots going out on long-term disabilities for whatever reason,” he said.

“They’re getting cancers.  They’re getting neurological problems. They’re having vascular issues.  These are sneaking up on pilots. It’s taking a long time for some of these things to show up but they are showing up in greater and greater numbers.”

“Treatments are available,” Vance said. “We’ve got to get our flight crews, we’ve got to get our flight attendants, the wrench turners, air traffic controllers, anybody who’s been affected in the aviation industry by this gene therapy – we’ve got to get them fixed.”

Beginning at timestamp 2:07:25, Vance and Dr. Stillwagon discussed the steps that can be taken to “fix this horrible mess” and help those who have been vaccine-injured.

You can watch the full discussion below.