Democratic strategist Jessica Tarlov claimed Tuesday that former President Donald Trump talked about Jewish people like they were “in boxes” after a fellow panelist pointed to Trump’s outreach to black and Hispanic voters in the 2024 campaign.

Vice President Kamala Harris has increased outreach to black men as Trump gains support among the voting bloc. Tarlov grew frustrated after podcast host Rob Smith said that Trump was not running an “identity-based” campaign, prompting her to claim that the former president was using similar tactics with Jewish voters.

“They don’t like him, he has had a historic gender gap,” Tarlov claimed, referring to women voters. “I mean, Republicans typically don’t do as well with women, this is beyond anything we’ve seen before and – you say he doesn’t talk to people like they’re in boxes, roll the tape of him talking to Jews and how he says it’s going to be your fault if I lose. Creating a dual loyalty issue for us, if you support Israel you can’t possibly vote for the Democrats, calling Doug Emhoff a ‘crappy Jew?’”

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“Isn’t that what Biden did when he said if you don’t support me, you ain’t black?” MacCallum responded, prompting Tarlov to retort that Biden wasn’t on the ticket.

Prior to the exchange over Jewish voters, Smith noted that former President Barack Obama’s efforts to secure support for Harris among black men appeared to have backfired.

“I don’t think the Democrats in any way saw or foresaw the blowback that they were going to get from sending Obama out the basically shame black men for not supporting Harris enough, okay, and there’s no universe in which, if these poll numbers were holding up, you look earlier it said that 90% of black voters were for Democrats in 2020, now are looking at about 78% to 15%,” Smith told Fox News host Martha MacCallum. “If these poll numbers are holding up for Kamala Harris the same way that it would hold up for Democrats in the past, there’s absolutely no way she would be going on a media blitz to target black men three weeks before an election, so there’s obviously some desperation there.”

Trump has also picked up support from Hispanic voters, largely due to the economy and immigration, during the campaign. Harris receives the support of 56% of likely Hispanic voters compared to 37% who support Trump in a head-to-head match-up, according to a New York Times poll released Sunday.