Dr. Robert Epstein, a leading behavioral research expert and founder of the Cambridge Center for Behavioral Studies, issued a chilling warning over Google’s ability to sway election results during a recent episode of the “Joe Rogan Experience.”

“We are finding overwhelming evidence that they are very deliberately and systematically messing with us and our elections especially. I personally believe that as of 2012, the free and fair election, at least at the national level, has not existed,” Epstein told Rogan, adding that results have been “manipulated” since then.

The Harvard professor went on to explain that he met with Google’s tech team in 2012, which he referred to as “Obama’s tech team,” and gained insight into “all of Google’s shenanigans, all those manipulations.”

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“One member of that team asked by a reporter, how many of the four points by which Obama won, how many of those points did he get from the tech team? And the guy said, Elon Kregel, I believe his name is, it was actually quoted, and he said, ‘two of the points came from us,'” Epstein continued. 

“Now, Obama won by five million votes, roughly, and two out of four points came from the tech team, that’s two and a half million votes. By 2016, I had calculated that Google could shift, and it would be toward Hillary Clinton, of course, whom I supported at the time, that Google could shift between 2.6 and 10.4 million votes to Hillary Clinton in that election with no one knowing. She won the popular vote by 2.8 million votes. If you take Google out of that election, the popular vote would have been tied.”

Epstein has conducted extensive studies on Google’s ability to influence elections in recent years. In a 2022 article published by the Daily Caller, Epstein explained that Google and other tech giants are shifting opinion and voting preferences using “ephemeral experiences.”

“We have so far preserved more than 1.9 million ‘ephemeral experiences’ – exposure to short-lived content that impacts people and then disappears, leaving no trace – that Google and other companies are able to use to shift opinions and voting preferences, and we expect to have captured more than 2.5 million by Election Day,” he wrote.

Epstein noted that ephemeral experiences were discussed by Google employees in emails leaked by the Wall Street Journal from 2018. The employees discussed how these experiences could be used to change people’s views about former President Donald Trump and his travel ban on terrorism-afflicted regions at the time. The travel ban was falsely described as a “Muslim ban” by the corporate press and tech giants.

By 2020, Epstein had designed a system aimed at monitoring ephemeral experiences. “We preserve 1.5 million ephemeral experiences. Our data show that Google shifted at least 6 million votes to Joe Biden who won the popular vote by about 8 million. So again, take Google out of the equation, that would have been pretty much a tie in the popular vote and Trump would have won 11 out of 13 swing states instead of five,” the Harvard researcher told Joe Rogan.

“So going forward from roughly 2012, I think the free and fair election has been an illusion, an illusion. And this is something that’s very weird and kind of ironic, but this is something that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned about in that last speech of his, his farewell speech, he warned about the rise of military industrial complex, everyone’s heard about that. But he also warned about the rise of a technological elite that could someday control public policy without anyone knowing. And the technological elite are now in control.”

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