CNBC’s Joe Kernen, who co-hosts the network’s hit show “Squawk Box,” grilled Harris Campaign co-chair and U.S. Senator Chris Coons (D-DE) over Kamala’s refusal to sit for interviews and press conferences.

“If she would come on this show, and just like you do, and hopefully President Trump’s going to come on, former President Trump, if she would come on we could get answers to a lot of these things. And I’m just wondering as a surrogate that advises the campaign, there is an effort to rope-a-dope this thing right to the election in my view,” Kernen said. “And the other side has done 40 or 50 interviews.”

Kernen then pointed to the fact that Harris has agreed to a historically low number of interviews for a major presidential candidate. A recent analysis from Axios noted that neither Harris nor her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, have set for more than five interviews. This amounts to the most restrictive press access in modern presidential campaign history.

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“I think, I don’t have to take my shoes off to count on my fingers and toes how many interviews that she’s done along with Governor Walz. And that looks like a deliberate effort just not to face the hard questions,” Kernen told Coons. “And to try to, I don’t know, I think Americans might finally say, you know, I don’t like the way this is working. I want to know, I think Andrew was getting at that in another way, that we would like to see questions asked and answers provided for all these things. We may never get that. We only got 40 days left.”

“We just had Vice President Harris say, yes, let’s do another presidential debate. And Donald Trump say, no. And you have to agree that a nationally televised hour-long debate is one way to answer a lot of direct questions,” Coons answered.

“So is just sitting down with an interview with anyone,” Kernen shot back.

Coons then insinuated that Harris is too busy with the U.N. General Assembly to answer direct questions on policy.

“But the answer is she’s too busy? That should be in a stack list. I’ve got to learn how to use the term stack list. That would be number one for my stack list, is to be transparent and open about what my plans are if I’m elected president,” Kernen said.

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